America selling piece by piece!

[jimsplace]

But, Japan is not buying Jim Beam.
A company in Japan is.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Crown Royal  is listed on both the London Stock Exchange (DGE) and the New York Stock Exchange (DEO)
under the name DIAGEO.
DIAGO also acquired SEGRAMS in 2001.
Diago is registered in England and Wales, not Canada.

You can be a part owner of Crown Royal, if you wish.
and you can still be a part owner of Jim Beam too.

This is part of the World Wide Economy thing.
We don't know who owns what for the most part, nor in most cases does it matter.
Most of us live and work for a paycheck and it doesn't really matter who owns the company as long as we get paid.  IMO
    :smile13:

And this is the very reason this country is going down the toilet! That type of mentality will be the death of this once proud super power of a nation! Now we don't manufacture, we just buy. We are the fat pig of the world and are always looking for the easy way and cheapest price. Who owns it is important! That's where the bulk of the profit will rest. Now it will rest in foreign hands. You wouldn't have typed that line in the 50's, so what makes it OK today? We were a strong nation back then, from what I read in the history books. If people would still  preach that being financially independent was the way to be, instead of glorifying how the world is today and that credit is a good thing. Maybe this country could regain it's strength and place in the global economy. I feel that all we are doing is watching the formation of monopolies! It will just be that much harder on the future generations to crawl out of this hole we are digging! There is no bright future on our current path! Just my $.02 worth. :smile30:

If you really believe that, you really need to open your mind to the 21st century.  We live in a global world.
There is not a single large corporation that exists without international ownership, not one.
Even if there was a Corporation totally owned by "AMERICANS", how would that benefit you or me?  It wouldn't.
Why would it make any difference?
You do understand that a Corporation will fire your ass, the moment you are no longer needed, regardless of who owns it.

Corporations are in business to make a profit and with very few exceptions, that is what the owners (stock holders) expect.
That's what I expect.  I don't invest with the idea of "lets make people happy" and neither do other stock holders.
If you truly believe Corporations are in business to make people happy or give people jobs, you don't live in the real world. 

Hypothetically speaking, If you owned a company and decided to sell it, would you sell it to someone for less because they are
an "American"?  Or, would you sell it to the one who would pay the most?
Be honest.

What about your house, wouldn't you sell it to the one who was willing to pay the most for it, if it were for sale?
        :smile17:

 

 

[Disturbed]

And the 'dumbing down' of America continues....

 

[Crusader]

And the 'dumbing down' of America continues....

very true.

Now with the POUTUS supporting the legalization of pot, we will see even more "Dumbing" in the near future.

 

[FL350]

But, Japan is not buying Jim Beam.
A company in Japan is.
I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Crown Royal  is listed on both the London Stock Exchange (DGE) and the New York Stock Exchange (DEO)
under the name DIAGEO.
DIAGO also acquired SEGRAMS in 2001.
Diago is registered in England and Wales, not Canada.

You can be a part owner of Crown Royal, if you wish.
and you can still be a part owner of Jim Beam too.

This is part of the World Wide Economy thing.
We don't know who owns what for the most part, nor in most cases does it matter.
Most of us live and work for a paycheck and it doesn't really matter who owns the company as long as we get paid.  IMO
    :smile13:

And this is the very reason this country is going down the toilet! That type of mentality will be the death of this once proud super power of a nation! Now we don't manufacture, we just buy. We are the fat pig of the world and are always looking for the easy way and cheapest price. Who owns it is important! That's where the bulk of the profit will rest. Now it will rest in foreign hands. You wouldn't have typed that line in the 50's, so what makes it OK today? We were a strong nation back then, from what I read in the history books. If people would still  preach that being financially independent was the way to be, instead of glorifying how the world is today and that credit is a good thing. Maybe this country could regain it's strength and place in the global economy. I feel that all we are doing is watching the formation of monopolies! It will just be that much harder on the future generations to crawl out of this hole we are digging! There is no bright future on our current path! Just my $.02 worth. :smile30:

If you really believe that, you really need to open your mind to the 21st century.  We live in a global world.
There is not a single large corporation that exists without international ownership, not one.
Even if there was a Corporation totally owned by "AMERICANS", how would that benefit you or me?  It wouldn't.
Why would it make any difference?
You do understand that a Corporation will fire your A$$, the moment you are no longer needed, regardless of who owns it.

Corporations are in business to make a profit and with very few exceptions, that is what the owners (stock holders) expect.
That's what I expect.  I don't invest with the idea of "lets make people happy" and neither do other stock holders.
If you truly believe Corporations are in business to make people happy or give people jobs, you don't live in the real world. 

Hypothetically speaking, If you owned a company and decided to sell it, would you sell it to someone for less because they are
an "American"?  Or, would you sell it to the one who would pay the most?
Be honest.

What about your house, wouldn't you sell it to the one who was willing to pay the most for it, if it were for sale?
        :smile17:

Spoken like a true libtard.

 

[Patchman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOOs8MaR1YM#t=32

 

[Devilman]

If you really believe that, you really need to open your mind to the 21st century.  We live in a global world.
There is not a single large corporation that exists without international ownership, not one.
Even if there was a Corporation totally owned by "AMERICANS", how would that benefit you or me?  It wouldn't.
Why would it make any difference?
You do understand that a Corporation will fire your A$$, the moment you are no longer needed, regardless of who owns it.

Corporations are in business to make a profit and with very few exceptions, that is what the owners (stock holders) expect.
That's what I expect.  I don't invest with the idea of "lets make people happy" and neither do other stock holders.
If you truly believe Corporations are in business to make people happy or give people jobs, you don't live in the real world. 

Hypothetically speaking, If you owned a company and decided to sell it, would you sell it to someone for less because they are
an "American"?  Or, would you sell it to the one who would pay the most?
Be honest.

What about your house, wouldn't you sell it to the one who was willing to pay the most for it, if it were for sale?
        :smile17:

So by your description, I don't see much to be all that happy about, lol. Your post pretty much describes why we are in the shape we are in as a country and that description of the world & environment we now live in sucks. You are talking about selling out basically & selling to the highest bidder doesn't necessarily always turn out to be a good thing.

 

[Devilman]

And the 'dumbing down' of America continues....

Ever see the movie "Idiocracy"? Its a comedy, but probably much closer to the truth than people would like to admit, lol. Seriously... :wink: :grin:

 

[jimsplace]

Spoken like a true libtard.

Written by an individual whose sole purpose in life is driving in circles and contributes nothing more to the topic than name calling, who knows absolutely nothing about me.
For that, you deserve an "ATTA BOY" award.
  :smile17:

 

[Patchman]

Spoken like a true libtard.

Written by an individual whose sole purpose in life is driving in circles and contributes nothing more to the topic than name calling, who knows absolutely nothing about me.
For that, you deserve an "ATTA BOY" award.
  :smile17:

Well Jim, why don't you take a minute to tell us about yourself! You have some pretty strong opinions on a variety of subjects. I for one have never met you, and I find it difficult to relate to you at times. I know I would be interested in hearing what it is you do, or what it is that you did. Any info mite help. :smile27:

 

[jimsplace]

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So by your description, I don't see much to be all that happy about, lol. Your post pretty much describes why we are in the shape we are in as a country and that description of the world & environment we now live in sucks. You are talking about selling out basically & selling to the highest bidder doesn't necessarily always turn out to be a good thing.
[/quote]

I have not advocated selling or selling out anything.
This thread is about selling a business.

You state that selling to the highest bidder isn't necessarily a good thing.
A good thing for who?
It's usually in the best interest of who owns the item or corporation to receive the most that a buyer and seller can agree on.
Who should it benefit?  Maybe the owners.
Isn't that free enterprise.
Generally, who would you think should determine who someone can sell too?  The Government, your neighbor or maybe the ones who owns it.
They are the ones who invested in the business to make money, after all.
If you owned stock in that company, wouldn't you expect to receive the most that you could?
There is no national security at stake or vital secrets that might be revealed with this company.
It's just a business.
  :smile17: 
 

 

[FL350]

Spoken like a true libtard.

Written by an individual whose sole purpose in life is driving in circles and contributes nothing more to the topic than name calling, who knows absolutely nothing about me.
For that, you deserve an "ATTA BOY" award.
  :smile17:

Sure it is! Thanks for the award!!

 

[jimsplace]

Well Jim, why don't you take a minute to tell us about yourself! You have some pretty strong opinions on a variety of subjects. I for one have never met you, and I find it difficult to relate to you at times. I know I would be interested in hearing what it is you do, or what it is that you did. Any info mite help. :smile27:

I'd like to meet you, I don't know anything about you either.
You also have some opinions and seem to be willing to share.
Who knows, maybe we can work out the worlds problems.
    :smile17:
   

 

[Devilman]

I have not advocated selling or selling out anything.
This thread is about selling a business.

You state that selling to the highest bidder isn't necessarily a good thing.
A good thing for who?
It's usually in the best interest of who owns the item or corporation to receive the most that a buyer and seller can agree on.
Who should it benefit?  Maybe the owners.
Isn't that free enterprise.
Generally, who would you think should determine who someone can sell too?  The Government, your neighbor or maybe the ones who owns it.
They are the ones who invested in the business to make money, after all.
If you owned stock in that company, wouldn't you expect to receive the most that you could?
There is no national security at stake or vital secrets that might be revealed with this company.
It's just a business.
  :smile17: 

As it was stated earlier, its the principal of the thing. Be it driven by greed, lack of values, etc. Its more than just the selling of a business. Its the type of attitude displayed in the defense of the business practices spoken of above, in my opinion have contributed to the general state of our nation today. Its not a new thing, it has been happening over a period of time. Some folks see it, some folks don't. You seem to support it wholeheartedly so of course you don't see anything wrong with it & miss the point of my post. Not the first time & I doubt it will be the last, so this is probably the point where its best to just agree to disagree.

 

[jimsplace]

[

As it was stated earlier, its the principal of the thing. Be it driven by greed, lack of values, etc. Its more than just the selling of a business. Its the type of attitude displayed in the defense of the business practices spoken of above, in my opinion have contributed to the general state of our nation today. Its not a new thing, it has been happening over a period of time. Some folks see it, some folks don't. You seem to support it wholeheartedly so of course you don't see anything wrong with it & miss the point of my post. Not the first time & I doubt it will be the last, so this is probably the point where its best to just agree to disagree.
[/quote]

We may agree or disagree, but it appears that where we may disagree is whether principle has anything to do with buying or selling Corporation stock.
A Corporation is a business that is generally owned by stockholders.
The stocks are a piece of paper that represents a partial ownership in a company.
Stocks are bought and sold every day (M-F) by the millions.
When the Japanese company bought the stock, they offered more money than anyone else for a block of stock (A large amount).
When they did that, everyone who also happened to own shares of that stock at the time, had the value of their shares increase also.
The purchase increased the value of all shares some $16.00 to $84.00 per share.  That's $16.00 per share increase, or a bunch.
Since the other stockholders had to approve the deal, if I was a stockholder, I damn sure would approve it and I would be willing to bet you would too.
If you owned 1000 shares, your value would have increased $16,000 overnight.

How much is pride worth and what does it have to do with buying and selling shares of stock? 
You would still own your portion of the company.
  :smile17:

 

[Knotty Girl]

So how do y'all think will win the Super Bowl?

 

[FL350]

So how do y'all think will win the Super Bowl?

Don't know. I'm ready for the racing season!!!!

 

[ChryslerJet]

So how do y'all think will win the Super Bowl?

And there's the SQUIRREL!!!!

 

[Devilman]

We may agree or disagree, but it appears that where we may disagree is whether principle has anything to do with buying or selling Corporation stock.
A Corporation is a business that is generally owned by stockholders.
The stocks are a piece of paper that represents a partial ownership in a company.
Stocks are bought and sold every day (M-F) by the millions.
When the Japanese company bought the stock, they offered more money than anyone else for a block of stock (A large amount).
When they did that, everyone who also happened to own shares of that stock at the time, had the value of their shares increase also.
The purchase increased the value of all shares some $16.00 to $84.00 per share.  That's $16.00 per share increase, or a bunch.
Since the other stockholders had to approve the deal, if I was a stockholder, I damn sure would approve it and I would be willing to bet you would too.
If you owned 1000 shares, your value would have increased $16,000 overnight.

How much is pride worth and what does it have to do with buying and selling shares of stock? 
You would still own your portion of the company.
  :smile17:

Your response addresses nothing about any of my posts but it does solidify my opinion on the subject. Not that it matters to you or anyone else for that matter, we all know how much opinions are worth. If you would choose to whore yourself out for a few bucks, by all means, be my guest. I think a little differently on the matter is all. Carry on.

 

[duanehydro]

:grin:

 

[jimsplace]

We may agree or disagree, but it appears that where we may disagree is whether principle has anything to do with buying or selling Corporation stock.
A Corporation is a business that is generally owned by stockholders.
The stocks are a piece of paper that represents a partial ownership in a company.
Stocks are bought and sold every day (M-F) by the millions.
When the Japanese company bought the stock, they offered more money than anyone else for a block of stock (A large amount).
When they did that, everyone who also happened to own shares of that stock at the time, had the value of their shares increase also.
The purchase increased the value of all shares some $16.00 to $84.00 per share.  That's $16.00 per share increase, or a bunch.
Since the other stockholders had to approve the deal, if I was a stockholder, I damn sure would approve it and I would be willing to bet you would too.
If you owned 1000 shares, your value would have increased $16,000 overnight.

How much is pride worth and what does it have to do with buying and selling shares of stock? 
You would still own your portion of the company.
  :smile17:

Your response addresses nothing about any of my posts but it does solidify my opinion on the subject. Not that it matters to you or anyone else for that matter, we all know how much opinions are worth. If you would choose to whore yourself out for a few bucks, by all means, be my guest. I think a little differently on the matter is all. Carry on.

This is one of the problems with discussions on the threads.
You don't discuss the issue, you only know to attack those who disagree.
You make it personal.

I don't own JIM BEAM stock, I don't work there and I don't drink, so I don't give a damn who owns it.
I don't consider it a national treasure.
It's a business where owners try to make money.
It's their company.
The last I knew, America has prospered using that concept.

Please respond with complete thoughts and whole sentences, why it's wrong.
  :smile17: