I forgot to mention, Easter Sunday, broke out a kite, it's still in the tree, and then remembered I had one of those kites that like like an airplane (P40), that Kona Girls step mom gave me several yrs ago, I pissed me off so often I gave it back, well we are sitting there Sunday, watching this diamond kite flyin over the trees with the string caught in them, so I said to her, " I wonder if your dad still has that kite, call him and ask" , so she does and he still had it brought it out, and i assembled it and it still had flight issues, I finally got the damn thing to fly after a couple of hours, flew it till dark, and flew it again yesterday evening for a couple of hour, lot of fun... :smile16: