Brazos River Rat ( Billy's ) Update

[73 Sanger Flat]

I think longer would give you more movement .. That is why the right side has longer than the left side to push the plate down more to help with the twist of the prop pushing harder on the right side of the boat ..
When I see JJ i will ask the guru that knows .. One of these days maybe we will learn from some of the great Flatt bottom driver and V-Drive experts  ..

 

[73 Sanger Flat]

If you zoom in on mine , you can see the stanchion are longer on the right side .. I need to measure Jim's and see what sizes he has on his boat ..

 

[Disturbed]

I think longer would give you more movement .. That is why the right side has longer than the left side to push the plate down more to help with the twist of the prop pushing harder on the right side of the boat ..
When I see JJ i will ask the guru that knows .. One of these days maybe we will learn from some of the great Flatt bottom driver and V-Drive experts  ..

I'm talking about the control arm.  Not the eyelevers.

There's a ton of knowledge at the races.  Those guys know what works and what doesn't.  The bad thing is I'm surrounded by Hydro guys at the races!  :smile26:  They just have to point, shoot, and pray. 
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[jimsplace]

He says getting closer to a fast boat, and runs 110 mph. Your killing me man, that thing is faster than most! clap.gif clap.gif clap.gif clap.gif :smile17:

It's a flatbottom, you shouldn't expect anything less.
Seriously, Billy is getting it where it should be.  It's running really good.
A little tweaking here and there and it'll run with just about anything short of something exotic.
    :smile17:

 

[jimsplace]

I think longer would give you more movement .. That is why the right side has longer than the left side to push the plate down more to help with the twist of the prop pushing harder on the right side of the boat ..
When I see JJ i will ask the guru that knows .. One of these days maybe we will learn from some of the great Flatt bottom driver and V-Drive experts  ..

I'm talking about the control arm.  Not the eyelevers.

There's a ton of knowledge at the races.  Those guys know what works and what doesn't.  The bad thing is I'm surrounded by Hydro guys at the races!  :smile26:  They just have to point, shoot, and pray. 
crazy.gif

I don't mean to knock the racers, but there is a lot of bad information there too.
At one time you could talk to the pro gas or comp flat racers and get useful information, but with bracket racing they don't have to develop efficient boat and motor combinations.
They just throw more horsepower to get better speeds and reduced ET.

There are some that still try to perfect what they have, but many don't.
Nearly all of the bracket racers are capable of running faster than there numbers allow now, and are trying to slow them down.

With saying that, there is still a lot of guys who do know there stuff.  IMO
    :smile17:

 

[jimsplace]

If you zoom in on mine , you can see the stanchion are longer on the right side .. I need to measure Jim's and see what sizes he has on his boat ..

Billy
That's really a nice looking boat sitting next to your's in the water.
I'd sure like to see it in the water again.
    :smile17:

 

[73 Sanger Flat]

If you zoom in on mine , you can see the stanchion are longer on the right side .. I need to measure Jim's and see what sizes he has on his boat ..

Billy
That's really a nice looking boat sitting next to your's in the water.
I'd sure like to see it in the water again.
    :smile17:

Tell us when that twin Day Cruiser will be back Jim .. We are waiting for that to hit the water also ..

 

[73 Sanger Flat]

I think longer would give you more movement .. That is why the right side has longer than the left side to push the plate down more to help with the twist of the prop pushing harder on the right side of the boat ..
When I see JJ i will ask the guru that knows .. One of these days maybe we will learn from some of the great Flatt bottom driver and V-Drive experts  ..

I'm talking about the control arm.  Not the eyelevers.

There's a ton of knowledge at the races.  Those guys know what works and what doesn't.  The bad thing is I'm surrounded by Hydro guys at the races!  :smile26:  They just have to point, shoot, and pray. 
crazy.gif

Point and Shoot .. Hell I might have to get me one of those boats .. Might be easier to drive and go faster ..

 

[73 Sanger Flat]

He says getting closer to a fast boat, and runs 110 mph. Your killing me man, that thing is faster than most! clap.gif clap.gif clap.gif clap.gif :smile17:

It's a flatbottom, you shouldn't expect anything less.
Seriously, Billy is getting it where it should be.  It's running really good.
A little tweaking here and there and it'll run with just about anything short of something exotic.
    :smile17:

I was taking in as much info from Jimmy Fliipen as I could , he was telling me how to adjust the plates .. He told me if I go to the Waco race he would go there and  help me set it up for the races .. I know he used to have a fast Cole TR-4 that was his last race boat .. I think I am on the right track this year .. It just takes time to get it to go fast and be stable .

 

[Carnivalride]

One thing to keep in mind is that lower gears flash the prop quicker and typically take a little less down. 32s are tall gears even with a serious piece like Billy's  but IMO 25s would let it flash quicker and make it easier to drive. As far as more plate travel your eye levers look long enough but how much center plate travel do you have? When I replaced my down pedal I went with a longer arm where the rod connects.

BTW congrats on a good day with a nice running boat. It's going your way now just a few more tweaks and you'll be there.

 

[73 Sanger Flat]

Thanks Loren , was you able to watch the two videos? The side is cleaning up pretty good with the adjustments .. I am not sure what you are referring to "]a longer arm where the rod connects."  Can you post a pic for me .. I am not sure how much actually down movement i have on the plates .. I measured them one time and not sure how much .. I have to slide the boat back about a foot or more to get the plates cleared to move down .. If I added longer eye levers would that help get more down on the plates .. Teach me PLEASE ..

 

[Knotty Girl]

I think that boat is entirely too fast, no need to drive that fast on the water.  :smile30:

 

[jimsplace]

He says getting closer to a fast boat, and runs 110 mph. Your killing me man, that thing is faster than most! clap.gif clap.gif clap.gif clap.gif :smile17:

It's a flatbottom, you shouldn't expect anything less.
Seriously, Billy is getting it where it should be.  It's running really good.
A little tweaking here and there and it'll run with just about anything short of something exotic.
    :smile17:

I was taking in as much info from Jimmy Fliipen as I could , he was telling me how to adjust the plates .. He told me if I go to the Waco race he would go there and  help me set it up for the races .. I know he used to have a fast Cole TR-4 that was his last race boat .. I think I am on the right track this year .. It just takes time to get it to go fast and be stable .

Billy
EO, Tony and Flipping go way back and have had some really good boats.
Tony ran Comp flat and Blown Gas, while Flippin ran Comp flat and pro gas flat.
Those are the type of guys who were looking to get everything out of their boats they could.  Those were the guys who won or lost by who got there first within the rules.
They both did well.

Flippin's last boat was a canyon, the one before that was a Cole TR-4.

 

[73 Sanger Flat]

I am not looking to get every last bit out of mine , just need a little help to get it to do what it should .. It is good to listen and take in the advice from guys like this . I understand their boat were RACE boats and mine is a a Lake boat , I will never have mine set up like theirs ..

 

[73 Sanger Flat]

I think that boat is entirely too fast, no need to drive that fast on the water.  :smile30:

It is OK Henry , it is a Flat- bottom V-drive  and not a Hydro -- I can turn it  .. It is getting pretty fast and I know I must respect the boat at all time , no matter what speeds it is going .. It can hurt you quick ..

 

[Disturbed]

I think that boat is entirely too fast, no need to drive that fast on the water.  :smile30:

Are you suggesting that he trade it in on a hydro?

 

[whitetrash148]

Congrats on your fast boat. Ask me anything you want about my set up, nothing but the straight skinny here!

 

[73 Sanger Flat]

Congrats on your fast boat. Ask me anything you want about my set up, nothing but the straight skinny here!

I don't think your set up would help my boat Ron .. Unless you switched to a V-Drive .. But I will be picking your brain about the ropes and clocks for next year ..Thanks for the compliment .. It is finally getting there ..

 

[Patchman]

His secret is concrete! :smile23: :smile14:

 

[73 Sanger Flat]

His secret is concrete! :smile23: :smile14:

is he sand bagging everyone ,, having to add a little weight to slow it down ??